That is to not say he does not give it some thought, and even take steps to keep away from setting himself up for an fall. That fall, although, and the very concept of this new idea of canceling folks, he finds “fascinating.”

“It is fascinating to me, the concept that you possibly can say one thing and every little thing can be pulled away from you,” Cohen instructed Vulture in a brand new piece. The phenomenon has all the time been part of public life, however appears to have gained a life (and pace) of its personal within the social media period.

Nonetheless, Cohen shared that he’d reconsidered an excerpt from his 2012 memoir he was pondering of studying at a public occasion. The passage was a narrative a few prank he performed on his mother and father to persuade them he was Native American.

The purpose of the story was how a joke can go too far and go from humorous to imply, however he apprehensive the small print would derail the intent. “It’s a must to be sensible about what you say as a result of there is no nuance anymore,” he defined. “Individuals are simply ready to be outraged by each little factor.”

On the identical time, the radio and speak present host says he likes to be provocative. “It makes me really feel alive in a bizarre approach. It is harmful. It is spontaneous,” he instructed the outlet. “I feel it generally will get to the center of who an individual is. Should you navigate it properly, it may well turn into one thing unbelievable and intoxicating.”

Whereas he knowingly pushes the envelope, Cohen admits that he generally worries that he could have crossed a line or mentioned the mistaken factor. “I am all the time ready for the factor that is going to make all of it fall down,” he mentioned.

That “actuality reckoning” gave the impression to be heading his approach after a collection of lawsuits earlier this 12 months by former Actual Housewives that focused him, the present’s producers, and community Bravo. Cohen was painted as a ringleader within the present’s alleged exploitations of its solid and their addictions, in addition to claims he had a “proclivity for cocaine utilization.”

One of many attorneys main the cost, Bryan Freedman, instructed Selection that leaving Cohen in his place at Bravo was harking back to pre-MeToo behaviors “when income have been prioritized over folks.” Guardian firm NBCUniversal and attorneys for Cohen denied all allegations.

Cohen was cleared by an inner investigation and by no means stopped his omnipresent function on the community, heading the assorted franchise reunions and speaking to Bravolebrities and mainstream stars alike on WWHL each night time. The lawsuits are nonetheless pending, although.

As Bethenny Frankel, who scored a $100 million payday after promoting her Skinnygirl model, tried to foyer actuality stars — together with Housewives — into unionizing amid final 12 months’s Hollywood strikes, Cohen referred to her relentless push, in addition to allegations that began flying at him personally, as a “sustained assault.”

What began as problematic claims, like Ramona Singer’s issues with Eboni Ok. Williams, escalated into precise lawsuits, like these stemming from an Final Women Journey tapings gone mistaken after Brandi Glanville was accused of sexually assaulted a butler after which Caroline Manzo. Glanville blamed the manufacturing for plying her with alcohol, regardless of her habit.

She then turned her frustration at being focused in these fits again on Cohen, accusing him of harassment for sending her an inappropriate joke video. Cohen has mentioned it was a pleasant change on the time, however apologized.

Followers have speculated that Frankel’s flip stems from a contentious December 2022 WWHL look the place she was clearly sad to be known as out on the present for launching a podcast in regards to the Actual Housewives after she’d “been trashing” the franchise “publicly for the final three years,” per Cohen.

Regardless of every little thing, he stays a staunch defender of the Actual Housewives franchise as an entire, proudly touting that “now we have put extra girls over 50 on tv,” and pushing again towards Gloria Steinem’s 2015 quote on WWHL that the present is “girls all dressed up and inflated and cosmetic surgery and false bosoms and never getting together with one another.”

Cohen sees that frequent take as “a lazy trope,” and as a substitute sees RH as “a feminist present,” citing varied forward-thinking girls who agree. And he respects the ladies who make up every solid “as a result of they open up their lives in a generally very uncooked approach, and I feel that might be actually laborious to do.”

“I do not know if I’ve the structure to do this on tv. So the energy of those girls in the end to share that after which open themselves up for all types of conversations is one thing that I like.”

Extra considerably, he believes the longevity and ongoing reputation of the assorted collection proves its greater than that “lazy” criticism.

“I feel that if it was nearly girls combating, it will not nonetheless be on the air 18 years later and there wouldn’t be ten exhibits going,” he argued. “There needs to be humanity and there needs to be humor, and you must join with these girls. And so, clearly, there’s drama and battle, however there’s an entire lot extra.”

Watch What Occurs Reside airs Sunday by means of Thursday, whereas Actual Housewives exhibits are throughout Bravo’s schedule.